Bruce Ashcroft invited Mr. William Jones and I to Wright-Patterson to find out about the “Little Green Men.” This consisted of a presentation which included a video from a Wright Patterson reunion. This ‘alumni day’ included three former Project Blue Book directors who were still living.

One was Hector Quintanilla. Bruce had a tape of an interview between Carl Day and Quintanilla. In this interview Me. Quintanilla said that Project Blue Book was completely separate from the CIA and later from the DIA. This information was quite interesting because he also added that he didn’t have the security clearances needed to work for intelligence organizations. In addition, he mentioned that at that time, authorities considered that UFOs were Russian. Thus, he admitted that they were taken seriously. This is also interesting because Project Blue Book consisted of a major and several secretaries. Obviously if the authorities considered UFOs to be Russian, they would have investigated at a higher level than this.

If evidence suggestive of UFO material were found, there would be little reason to send it to Project Blue Book. Any materials would have gone to an agency which could investigate it scientifically, e.g., housed at Wright-Patt is Air Force Materials Command, still the chief research and development branch of the Air Force. Likewise good observations and radar visuals would have gone to other agencies.

In addition, Wright-Patterson, in 1947 when UFO investigation began, had the premier American and German scientists of the world. If good materials or observations were collected, they would have gone elsewhere. This information provides further evidence that Project Blue Book was done for public relations only. There is no reason to believe the Air Force would give its best evidence to Project Blue Book, because they in no way were equipped to conduct investigations of these matters.

Mr. Ashcroft in other ways made comments that we could have interpreted as extremely simplistic explanations ... to be included in future articles.