[J. denotes questions of the investigator/hypnotist and G. the responses of the experiencer/contactee.]
| J: | As I count from 3 to 1 you will find yourself going back into time to probably the age of five...a particular time when you were very happy...You are at that point. What's occurring? |
| G: | I am sick. Always sick. But I don't mind because they are always there. They always talk with me. |
| J: | What do they say? |
| G: | They tell me everything. Everything. All there is. |
| J: | Why do you seem to be sick all of the time? |
| G: | Because I am closer then. I'm more out of me. I'm my real self. |
| J: | So you are having difficulty becoming firmly attached to your current physical self? |
| G: | Yes. [She starts sobbing.] I always get so angry. |
| J: | Why? |
| G: | Because I had to come into this. I didn't want this. It confines me. |
| J: | [J tries to take her back to somewhere else to reduce her upset feelings.] Where are you now? |
| G: | [She is very excited, sobbing happily.] I am free. I am free. I am free. I'm all. We're all. We're everything. |
| J: | Where are you now? |
| G: | Everywhere. |
| J: | You came to this life for a particular purpose, a particular mission. [J. tries to bring her back to when she was two or three years old to look into an event that G asked be covered during the session. She said it was the first time that she remembered an alien presence in her life and she wanted to attempt to remember more about it.] You [said] you wanted to go outside for some reason...What's occurring? |
| G: | I'm there...it's that bigger me. It's huge, huge, huge. And I want to go. This other me, this physical me, wants to go. It's like I'm two, dual. They tell me as I go over that they love me, and it's me telling me also, "We love you. We will be back. We have some place to go. We must go there in a hurry." Mexico. There's something going on. I'm blocked out. Part of me is blocked out so that I can't see what else I am doing. They always put blocks there so that I don't know all, what's going on. I'm angry, so I cry and throw a temper tantrum. I want outside so I can go. [She says her family thinks she is crazy.] So finally they open the door [to her some] and let me out and say, "See, there's nothing there. It's just the northern lights." But it's not the northern lights. It's not the right time. |
| J: | What time of day is it? |
| G: | Night. |
| J: | Do you go outside? |
| G: | I go to the door and I look out and I see the bright light. Then I know what it is. No one can lie to me for I am permitted to see the truth as truth is. That's one good thing I appreciate, being confined in this [indistinct word] that has so many limitations. |
| [J brings G forward to the first time that she has any "physical contact that we in the physical form would consider unusual."] | |
| J: | What's occurring? |
| G: | They're making me conscious, so to speak, of the being that I now am. I'm in the garden, a vegetable garden. By myself, yet they're there. |
| J: | Do you see them? |
| G: | Yes. |
| J: | What do they look like? |
| G: | Some are which we call human. The vessel's so huge. There's a variety. There's my friends, the helpers. The big eyes that see everything. The face, sorta shaped like mine - a pointed chin. The mouth, a slit. But there's no need for a mouth because we talk freely mentally. It's an unnecessary thing. |
| J: | How many are there? |
| G: | Well, there's two with me, but above there's a lot. |
| J: | There's more in the craft? |
| G: | Uh, huh. [She shakes her head affirmatively.] |
| J: | How old are you at this time? |
| G: | Five, I think. I don't know for sure. I haven't learned to count yet. And I am so upset trying to learn these ways. It's so frustrating. They always tell me to be calm, be calm. |
| [J brings her forward to the very next time this occurs.] | |
| J: | What's occurring now? |
| G: | Oh I'm playing with the clay. They teach me how to mix clay up so I won't be too lonely. The clay almost matches their skin. Almost identical. And I make little clay figures. They tell me that if I so desire I can make the figures move. They can come alive, but that wouldn't really be appropriate.
Most of the time we are together they never leave me by myself. They teach me how to play children's play games. They have to with me most of the time because I so do want to break free. |
| J: | Are you still angry at being in the physical? |
| G: | I've adjusted over the years somewhat. |
| J: | How old are you? |
| G: | Six, seven or eight. Seven-ish. I try to not pay attention to years or age. |
| [J takes her forward to the next occurence.] | |
| G: | I'm laying out in the yard looking up at the sky through the lattice work of the trees. The sun is shinning and they are teaching me to come out of myself. They're so proud of me, but they are telling me I am learning too fast. They will have to block it. It's not the time. I'm blocked, I'm so scared. [She sobs.] I am told with each block there's a learning process and to settle down and learn. |
| J: | You find it easy to leave the physical body? |
| G: | Yes. It was for a period...but they blocked it because it got to a point where I had to be forced back. It's difficult now, but they're so patient. |
| [G is moved forward once again when she volunteers no more comments. She is asked to go to another experience.] | |
| G: | There's so many times, but this one stands out. I'm at work. I've been on sick for a long time, but I know I'm pregnant. I work with titanium metal and I know the doctors can't find out what's wrong with me but I'm so busy to be aware that I had missed several periods, but why should I worry. My tubes were cut and tied. There's two. They're standing beside me. They have black hats on and a white shirt, and probably a tie. They are very professional. Everything about me is monitored...because everything has to be perfect. It's almost time... |
| J: | Time for what? |
| G: | The baby. |
| J: | How long have you been with this baby? |
| G: | About three months, that I can remember. I've been pretty sick. [Long pause.] |
| J: | Are they going to take the baby from you? |
| G: | Uh, huh. [She shakes her head affirmatively.] |
| [J moves her forward to when that is about to occur.] | |
| J: | Where are you? |
| G: | I'm in my apartment, but it's like I am in two worlds. I've been that way for the longest they allow me to. And I know the hospital's on strike. What will we do? What will we do? [She breaths heavily.] |
| J: | Let's move forward. What's occurring now? |
| G: | I'm in an ambulance. I'm in so much pain. |
| J: | Are they with you? |
| G: | Not at this particular place, but yet I sense them. But he is. |
| J: | Who is he? |
| G: | My instructor. |
| [J asks what the ambulance is like. The answer on tape is indistinct. It is clear her instructor is still with her.] | |
| G: | [Sobs and says] I miss you. I miss you. I miss being home. |
| J: | Where is home, Gloria? |
| G: | [Still sobbing.] Everywhere. Home is where we choose it to be. Everywhere. [Sobbing, her comments are again indistinct.] |
| [J brings her back into the present in her living room where she is laying on her couch.] | |
| J: | How did it seem for you? |
| G: | Very pleasant. |
| J: | Did you seem like you were somebody else? |
| G: | Yes and no. [She still seems to be somewhat in a trance like state. Without prompting and exhibiting a personal confidence that seems inappropriate for the situation G asks] Is there anything you would like to know? |
| J: | Just how did you feel about it? |
| G: | How can I speak it on a level...I am having a difficulty growing together as one, the higher me and the lower me [words indistinct] then we will be completely one. Everyone is doing this now. Soon, very soon we will be sure of the totality [long pause]...
Would you like to speak, would anyone like to ask [word indistinct]? [It was as if a different personality from Gloria was speaking. J takes her back to where her "instructor" was with her.] |
| G: | He's there. I have transcended the physical pain. |
| J: | Where's the physical body being taken? |
| G: | Which hospital? There are only two here. Let's take her to St. Johns. [She sighs.] Why tonight? Then, why not tonight? I'm looking down and watching, just loving her so. If only she knew how much I loved her. |
| J: | If her tubes are tied, how can Gloria be pregnant? |
| G: | We ordained it. It was preordained. |
| J: | Will this child [be born in human flesh]? |
| G: | No, this is our child. This was one that was created in pure love, love. |
| J: | Why do you do this [the taking of human fetuses]? Why is this necessary? |
| G: | Purity. |
| J: | Is this the only reason? |
| G: | To tell you all of the reasons would take an eternity. [G enters into a one way dialogue about love and the need for humans to just accept love.] |
Comment:
The tone of the session slowly changed, as can be somewhat seen from the above transcript, from a contact/abduction narrative to what can only described as a channeling session. The personality of G changed from one that was hesitant and objective to a personality that was absolutely sure of its point of view, a point of view that can be described as new age and spiritual. When these sessions ended, G reverted slowly back to herself. What all of this means can only be guessed at, but it has been seen in other contact/abduction cases and should not be ignored as a point to be researched.